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RanMan - 20 Dec 2003 12:03 GMT
Can someone point me to a good web site or maybe even a book that details
how to best use an expansion card?

I can't figure out how to easily store and retreive pics, music and files to
and fro  my 256 cf.

I'm using a dell axim x5.
- 20 Dec 2003 18:05 GMT
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David - 24 Dec 2003 04:21 GMT
The best depends on your particular usage and types of content. And
whether you have a CF slot SD slot or both. I think the X5 has both?
Keep all system dependent files in the PPC internal memory. This is
critical. Anything that is needed at startup, Today plugins, cardfile
formatter,encryption program, activesynced files, and other common
essential utilities. I then have an SD card for most games,large non
essential programs and some media content. A CF card with an MP3 player
and current MP3 favorites. Another CF card with a navigation program and
all the charts for the voyages. A combo Wireless CF card with memory so
I put some of the programs that *require* 802.11b access on that card.
The fastest way to transfer a lot of files from a PC to a PPC is by
using a media card reader on your PC. Try to keep the number of programs
installed in the PPC internal memory to a minimum. This leaves more
memory for running applications or transferring large files if a card
reader is not available. It also keeps backup times through Active sync
to a minimum. All content on your external cards can be backed up to
your PC and most files swapped out via a media card reader. I use a
PCMCIA card reader which is very fast.

Most multimedia content can be transferred using a media card reader for
your PC. Not possible with some protected content, hence the reason I
use MP3's only for music. Most protected ebooks will also transfer via
media card reader and work as long as the associated PPC program is
registered for the same user as the PC's. Some protected content will
only allow for tranfer using the ActiveSync mechanism....I generally try
to stay away from such services and content unless they allow for a
means to convert the files. For example I use iTunes...burn the AC3's to
disk as a CD...and then rip them back as MP3's.If possible you want
large multimedia files that don't require synchronization with
ActiveSync on external cards. Activesync is slow and unreliable. There
are some third party sych addons that will sync to CF and SD cards also.
Card readers are fast,convenient, and cheap. I saw some great deals on
CF and SD cards during this holiday shopping period also. Hopefully even
cheaper after XMAS. With only a single card slot you can install what
programs you have and back up the card. Then you can restore to several
cards and  keep all or some these programs available on different cards
yet fill up the open space on each card with various content. This is a
great scheme for a single slot PPC for a music lover. You can fill the
remaining space on one or more cards with music, yet still have other
applications always available. And maybe another card with the same apps
and your digital picture album. All depends on what you use yours for,
how much content you have and want available and how many cards are in
your budget.

Make a plan that works for how you personally use your Axim. For someone
who doesn't have both CF and SD slots, or whether and which slot might
be used for a wireless card or other device, they will be more
restricted than having both so think up a scheme that best suits this.
Most people don't need such an extensive scheme. They may only use a
single card, or have a separate MP3 Player or whatever. Just some ideas
to help you figure out what you think may work best for your particular
usage and budget.

Specific to your second question...once again....get a media card reader
for your PC and try to stay away from protected nonconvertible media
types that won't allow for transfer via a media card reader.

> Can someone point me to a good website or maybe even a book that details
> how to best use an expansion card?
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> I'm using a dell axim x5.
RanMan - 27 Dec 2003 19:10 GMT
Is there a certain card reader that you would recommend?

I've researched some and am looking at one that reads 7 different formats
and is a 3 1\2 inch floppy drive as well.

This way I can still use it if I change card types.

> The best depends on your particular usage and types of content. And
> whether you have a CF slot SD slot or both. I think the X5 has both?
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> > I'm using a dell axim x5.
David - 28 Dec 2003 06:10 GMT
Not really any brand preference here. I have a PCMCIA CF Card adapter
that was meant to adapt a CF card Bluetooth adapter to a laptop. Works
great as a reader and seems to be faster than USB 1.1 at least. I use
this with a notebook simply for convenience. No USB cable. But I also
have a 5-in-1 combo usb2.0 unit that will work with CF, SD and other
cards I currently don't use. Just make sure you know it's mb limit. A
lot of stuff has nothing marked on the package so either be sure of what
it is from info you find on the vendors/manufacturers website, or buy it
locally from someone who has a liberal return policy. I won't buy any
media card based products off a website unless I demo one first at a
bricks and mortar shop, because most are not up front about their memory
card limitations. This is probably more of a problem these days with
specific devices others than simple card readers. Not sure. One other
feature you will want is an activity light. You don't want to be pulling
out cards while the device is still writing or you will have to reformat
the card. Or possible ruin it.

They are fairly simple devices so I don't know how much brand means as
far as quality goes. I generally stay away from unknown brands but would
probably buy this type of device with any commonly known brand stamped
on it. Some may be faster than others but the limitation is usually in
the bus. I haven't heard of anyone having problems with any particular
brand so it may not be worth paying more for a name.
Style...size...color...memory capacity limit....whatever floats your
boat. Most USB readers are USB2.0 compliant now, I would suggest that
even if you currently have only USB1.1 machines.

> Is there a certain card reader that you would recommend?

If you have to put it into a floppy drive to transfer to a PC stay away
from it. It is probably painfully slow. The most common are USB. I would
suggest that for most, since they are cheap and highly portable, unless
you want one solely for a laptop and want the convenience of a pcmcia
based solution. Multi format readers are the way to go but a floppy
interface is berry berry bad.

> I've researched some and am looking at one that reads 7 different formats
> and is a 3 1\2 inch floppy drive as well.
>
> This way I can still use it if I change card types.
RanMan - 28 Dec 2003 19:44 GMT
I've found a 3.5 drive that supports the following:

Supports 6 Types of Flash Memory Card: Compact Flash, MicroDrive, Secure
Digital Card, MultiMedia Card, MemoryStick, SmartMedia. 3.5 Floppy Disk
Drive. OS Support: Windows 98 SE, 2000, Me, XP, Mac OS 8.6 or higher. Plug +
Play: No Driver Installation required for Windows 2000(*2), ME,XP, Mac OS
8.6 or higher. LED indicator: For Power and Access. USB Powered: No extra
power supply required. Fast Transfer Rate: 500Kb/s Max(FDD), 12Mb/s
Max(Memory Card). USB 2.0 Full Speed Compliant. Backwards compatible with
USB 1.0 &1.1: Use your USB Media Drive with USB 1.1 or 1.0 computer ports.

I'm not sure of the speed of the typical FDD, do you know?

> Not really any brand preference here. I have a PCMCIA CF Card adapter
> that was meant to adapt a CF card Bluetooth adapter to a laptop. Works
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> > This way I can still use it if I change card types.
David - 29 Dec 2003 01:56 GMT
Sounds like you are talking about a media reader that fits fits into an
empty 3.5 in drive bay. Is this correct?

If so those are nice. From the specs it looks like the card reader ties
into the USB bus which is the norm. The only disadvantage would be it is
not portable but they are great if you don't need that. No external cables!

The FDD speed shouldn't matter. They are just providing a standard 3.5
in. drive also, but the media readers tie into the USB BUS.
If the price is right and you don't want a media reader that you can
plug into more than a single machine go for it.

> I've found a 3.5 drive that supports the following:
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> I'm not sure of the speed of the typical FDD, do you know?
RanMan - 29 Dec 2003 12:23 GMT
My plan is to buy this style of reader configuration with the 3.5 ability
and take my existing 3.5 and put into another system 'cause I need another
3.5 anyway. I don't not portability and have too many cables already.

Thanks.

> Sounds like you are talking about a media reader that fits fits into an
> empty 3.5 in drive bay. Is this correct?
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> > I'm not sure of the speed of the typical FDD, do you know?
 
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