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SDWifi Ad Hoc

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Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] - 15 Mar 2004 02:33 GMT
Really havn't had much use or luck with adhoc, but several postings from
SDWifi card owners needing to use adhoc got me curious, so after some
poking around, found that adhoc is there... but not obvious.

general

1 - Know that with adhoc connections, all "peers" should use the same id
(ESSID) This is the peer "group identity"

2 - IP's with adhoc normally need to be assigned manually... an adhoc
connection to an ICS computer _may_ assign dhcp values.  At the very
least, start experimenting with static ip's to make life easier.

3 - Do not impliment WEP with adhoc

SDWifi specific (following with Socket Drivers)

1 - There appears to be no way for the SD card to "initiate" an ad hoc
session, but it can "join" an existing adhoc session.

2 - When in range of another adhoc user, insert the card and select
"configuration" from the utility on the today screen.

3 - When the other adhoc transmitter appears, highlight it and tap "apply."

4 - Highlight the new entry at the top and tap the second icon at the
top. (Information)

5 - This will display the connection information and show it to be "peer
to peer"  Neither that field nor the ESSID (shown as SSID) is editable.

6 - Note that your own SDWifi card will now also display in the
"configuration" field.  Establishing a first adhoc session with another
card may be the way to initiate future adhoc sessions with other SDWifi
cards as it can then be "choosen" in future sessions.

AT this point, I had a working adhoc connection and was able to ping the
other ppc.  Once established, you should be able to sync, use portrait
and possibly used activesync passthrough... I now defer to other
experienced adhoc users.

Hope this helps...
Beverly Howard

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Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] - 15 Mar 2004 03:47 GMT
It is possible to manually add a new ad hoc session/session in the
SDWifi card utilities.

1 - Insert card

2 - tap the wifi icon on the Today Screen

3 - tap "Configuration" (select "AP Browser" in SanDisk Utility)

4 - tap the first icon at the top left of the configuration page.

5 - enter ESSID (in SSID field)

6 - pulldown "peer to peer"

7 - select channel

Reminder, SSID and ESSID values are case sensitive.

Hope this helps...
Beverly Howard

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Note; The contents of my postings and responses here represent my
personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views, thoughts or
feelings of Microsoft or any of its employees.

I am not an employee of Microsoft.  I visit and post here because I
(generally ;-) enjoy the experience and learn a lot by participating
here.  More info on the MVP program at http://Microsoft.com/MVP
no one important - 15 Mar 2004 14:14 GMT
> It is possible to manually add a new ad hoc session/session in the
> SDWifi card utilities.
>
> 1 - Insert card
>
> 2 - tap the wifi icon on the Today Screen

What icon ?

> 3 - tap "Configuration" (select "AP Browser" in SanDisk Utility)
>
> 4 - tap the first icon at the top left of the configuration page.

What icon ? The first one is greyed out ?

> 5 - enter ESSID (in SSID field)

How ? can't be done

> 6 - pulldown "peer to peer"

No option

> 7 - select channel
>
> Reminder, SSID and ESSID values are case sensitive.

I'm lost here, perhaps this is on 2002 ?
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] - 15 Mar 2004 16:16 GMT
>> 2002 <<

I am running 2002 (zero config is one reason for that ;-)

>> Today Screen Icon <<

When any socket, sandisk, symbol card is inserted, a small utility icon
appears at the lower right of the today screen and tapping that opens
the card utility.  Hope someone else will post the options on 2003

>> Greyed Out <<

It does appear "greyed out" to me as well but it responds to a tap.

The icon is hard to read, but there is a yellow "splash" at the top left

>> How ? can't be done <<

The only time that items on this screen are editable is when the "new
profile" icon is used.  Same for the pulldown... if you go in on an
existing profile, they are neither editable nor selectable.

Sorry that you can't achieve the same, but without being there, I can't
do much more.

Beverly Howard

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Note; The contents of my postings and responses here represent my
personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views, thoughts or
feelings of Microsoft or any of its employees.

I am not an employee of Microsoft.  I visit and post here because I
(generally ;-) enjoy the experience and learn a lot by participating
here.  More info on the MVP program at http://Microsoft.com/MVP
no one important - 15 Mar 2004 20:49 GMT
Oh well I'm using 2003 on a 1940 here. Would it worth trying the 2002 driver
with 2003 ?

> >> 2002 <<
>
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> (generally ;-) enjoy the experience and learn a lot by participating
> here.  More info on the MVP program at http://Microsoft.com/MVP
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] - 15 Mar 2004 21:39 GMT
Do know that the 2002 drivers will not work in 2003...

...waiting for someone else with 2003 and an SDWifi card to dupe my last
night's work in that environment... anyone?

Beverly Howard

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Note; The contents of my postings and responses here represent my
personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views, thoughts or
feelings of Microsoft or any of its employees.

I am not an employee of Microsoft.  I visit and post here because I
(generally ;-) enjoy the experience and learn a lot by participating
here.  More info on the MVP program at http://Microsoft.com/MVP
no one important - 15 Mar 2004 22:27 GMT
> Do know that the 2002 drivers will not work in 2003...
>
> ...waiting for someone else with 2003 and an SDWifi card to dupe my last
> night's work in that environment... anyone?
>
> Beverly Howard

Thanks for investigating btw, you post often on here I notice!
Jones@[DELETETHIS]phreaker.net - 16 Mar 2004 06:46 GMT
Configuration is completely different with 2003.  Not as many options.
I have the Socket card (same as the SanDisk, and also Viewsonic).
Can't get it to work with D-Link DI-614+ (old) or DI-514 (new,
tonight).  With both, it always says "Associating" and keeps scanning
throught trying to find the channel.  I think the D-Links just plain
suck.  I'm going to take the DI-514 back to BestBuy and buy a Netgear
or Microsoft and try them.  I might just get one of each that they
have, find one that works, and return the rest!

>Do know that the 2002 drivers will not work in 2003...
>
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>(generally ;-) enjoy the experience and learn a lot by participating
>here.  More info on the MVP program at http://Microsoft.com/MVP
redcat_in_white_hat - 29 Mar 2004 20:24 GMT
> ...  I think the D-Links just plain
> suck.  I'm going to take the DI-514 back to BestBuy and buy a Netgear
> or Microsoft and try them.  I might just get one of each that they
> have, find one that works, and return the rest!

I recently had trouble setting up a D-Link DI-514 for a friend. Here's
what happened:

(1) After changing settings at the router's admin page (accessed by
browsing http://192.168.0.1) AND clicking the apply and continue
buttons, frequently the settings would not take effect until after the
DI-514 had been powered off and on again.  This looked like bad
firmware to me. (firmware: software in a small, micro-controller based
device that can be upgraded when a new version of the firmware is made
available.)

(2) I could not get 64-bit or 128-bit encryption to work with two
known good notebooks that work on other encrypted, wireless networks.
Encryption is essential for security!

(3) Resorting to MAC address filtering, I went to the router's page to
set that up. I entered the MAC # and clicked the "apply" button. The
screen filled with error messages, and I could not log back onto the
router until I pulled the power and turned it  on again.

This was a "hardware version: B firmware version 1.00" brand:D-Link
model:DI-514 .  The release date for this firmware is Oct. 2003.  I
hope they put out a new, debugged version soon, but there are no signs
of that after a long look at http://support.dlink.com/ .  Tech support
was squirrelly about commenting on that as well (Although I did get a
*BIG guffaw* from the 877 number support rep when I said I was trying
to get encryption to work on this model.  Was he trying to tell me
something his boss didn't want him to tell?).

I noticed recently (March 20, 2004) that the DI-514 was on sale at
Office Depot for $29.98USD (after rebate).  I think the price
incentive is there to unload a lemon on the technically unsavvy and
wireless unwashed.

BOTTOM LINE: I could only get it to work in unencrypted mode. The
bargain is tempting, but the firmware design is poor and plagued with
problems, and it doesn't really do all it says it does on the box.
Spend a little more money and get a good wireless router. As they say
"YGWYPF" and "The cheapskate pays the most in the end!"

Did you ever get your wireless problem fixed, Jones?

Red Cat!
Terry A. Austin - 15 Mar 2004 16:33 GMT
If you don't have the same OS and are running a different company's card you
can't expect to see the same setup icon's that Bev is describing.
 
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