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HP 5450 and D-Link DWL-2100AP

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Richard L Rosenheim - 24 May 2004 06:51 GMT
Just upgrade my network from a SMC 802.11b access point to the D-Link
DWL-2100AP 802.11g access point.

My Ipaq 5450 won't talk to it.  The IQAP WLAN program is reporting a signal
strength of 0%, and on the Status page, it just loops through
"Scanning...Joining...Authenticating"

I tried adding this registry key to no avail:
HKLM/Comm/vnetusba1/Parms/Tcpip/MTU (dword:160 decimal).  I found this page,
via Google, at http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=9&TopicId=401
On my machine, I actually needed to add the vnetusba1 key.

I have two other computers that is successfully talking with the D-Link, so
it's working.  I tried using the Ipaq with both WEP enabled and disabled
(yes, on both the Ipaq and the D-Link).  Didn't help.

I'm running PC2002.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?

TIA,

Richard Rosenheim
Helio Diamant - MS/MVP, Mobile Devices - 24 May 2004 10:36 GMT
The only thing I can think is that you might have disabled 802.11b support
in your new router by mistake. Did you check that?

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> Just upgrade my network from a SMC 802.11b access point to the D-Link
> DWL-2100AP 802.11g access point.
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> Richard Rosenheim
Richard L Rosenheim - 24 May 2004 20:55 GMT
Yes, I did.  There's a "802.11g Only" option and it's set to "disable".

Richard Rosenheim

> The only thing I can think is that you might have disabled 802.11b support
> in your new router by mistake. Did you check that?
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> > Richard Rosenheim
- 25 May 2004 08:49 GMT
Not the first place I'd look, but on the AP, is
 
 Preamble:
 
short or long?  Long is typical .b, especially old .bs.
If it's already long, try short.  Short will get better
performance for typical setups, if it works.  There
may be other settings on the same page as preamble, but
of course only change one thing at a time.

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Richard L Rosenheim - 25 May 2004 09:41 GMT
I don't see a "preamble" setting anywhere.

There are these settings:

       Channel (6)
       Data Rate (auto)
       Beacon Interval (100)
       DTIM (1)
       Fragment Length (2346)
       RTS Length (2346)
       Transmit Power (full)

> Not the first place I'd look, but on the AP, is
>
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> may be other settings on the same page as preamble, but
> of course only change one thing at a time.
- 25 May 2004 10:37 GMT
A 900AP+ here so what's good for this may not be good for the 2100.
But other than DTIM, there's nothing different in what's common.

Beacon interval :  100 (msec, range:1~1000, default:100)  
RTS Threshold   : 2432 (range: 256~2432, default:2432)  
Fragmentation   : 2346 (range: 256~2346, default:2346, even number only)  
DTIM interval   :    3 (range: 1~255, default:3)  
Basic rates     : 1-2(Mbps)  (x)1-2-5.5-11(Mbps)  1-2-5.5-11-22(Mbps)
TX rates        : 1-2(Mbps)  (x)1-2-5.5-11(Mbps)  1-2-5.5-11-22(Mbps)
Preamble type   : Short Preamble  (x)Long preamble  
Authentication  : Open system  Shared key  (x)Auto  
SSID broadcast  : (x)Enabled  Disabled
4X Mode         : Enabled  (x)Disabled  
Antenna xmit pwr: (x)100% 17dBm 50% 15dBm 25% 12dBm 12.5% 10dBm  
Antenna select  : Left antenna  Right antenna  (x)Diversity antenna

RR [Tue, 25 May 2004 01:41:44 -0700]:
>I don't see a "preamble" setting anywhere.
>There are these settings:
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>        RTS Length (2346)
>        Transmit Power (full)

Have you tried channel 11 or 1 ?  And the obvious things, whatever
those are.  How about a firmware update to the 2100 (that'd be the
last thing I'd try) ?  There's always d-link tech support (just
kidding).

FWIW, I get a 0.55 MB/sec rate between here and my iPAQ 4155, which
is as good as you'll ever get on a 802.11b card, anywhere, on
anything (close to the best possible anyway).  On any other device
I get in the 0.40-.49s MB/sec range.  0.55 MB/sec = 4.6 Mbps real-life,
close-by, throughput, or 4614 kbps (mp3=128 kbps, CD=1411 kbps) and
with CPU to spare (all my radios other than the 4155's use all the CPU
they can during a xfer, if given the opportunity).

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Richard L Rosenheim - 27 May 2004 17:17 GMT
Thanks for the reply.

I've been trading emails with D-Link.  He did suggest dropping the RTS
Threshold and Fragmentation both 2000, but that didn't help.

I've also updated the iPaq to PC2003 (along with the HP patches), but that
hasn't helped either.  The iPaq does display the SID and says it connected,
but I can't connect to anything.

Richard Rosenheim
> A 900AP+ here so what's good for this may not be good for the 2100.
> But other than DTIM, there's nothing different in what's common.
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> with CPU to spare (all my radios other than the 4155's use all the CPU
> they can during a xfer, if given the opportunity).
- 27 May 2004 20:50 GMT
You're getting desperate?  So, it used to work on a
SMC AP but doesn't work on the 2100.  So that makes
it a 2100 problem.  What did dlink say about the
preamble setting not being there?

I recently updated the firmware (for wpa) on my 900+
and I left it in 4x mode.  All my radios worked (have
six) except a dlink 660W (of all?).  It took me a
while but I saw the 4x in there and got rid of it.
Doing that also brought back a few "hidden" entries
-- hidden only when 4x was enabled.  I saw those
flash by in 4x so I looked at the script in the
web browser.  That's where I saw the 4x code.  Or,
it went something like that.  Anyway, maybe the
script that shows that status screen can shed some
light on things hidden.

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Richard L Rosenheim - 30 May 2004 06:15 GMT
More frustrated than desperate at the moment.

There is a setting on the 2100AP called "Super G Mode".  I suspect that's
the same as your "4x mode".  It's disabled (and always have been).

I didn't ask D-Link about the preamble setting.  Just sent them an email
outlining the problem, what I've tried, etc.  The suggestion was to change
both the RTS Length and Fragment Length to 2000.  I tried it, didn't help,
and I haven't heard back from them yet.  Probably will end up having to call
them next week.

Which, of course, is no fun.  I'll probably end up in an endless loop --
D-Link will claim it's a HP issue, HP will claim it's a D-Link issue, and
neither one will really want to help.

Richard Rosenheim
> You're getting desperate?  So, it used to work on a
> SMC AP but doesn't work on the 2100.  So that makes
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> script that shows that status screen can shed some
> light on things hidden.
- 30 May 2004 11:30 GMT
In case you haven't, make a backup of the 5400, print
all setup pages from the 2100, and reset both.  Don't
restore any backups (yet).  Start from scratch.  After
that, if nothing's changed, eBay - meet dlink 2100, or
send them both packing.  Or make use of the SMC AP if
you still have it.  Pick channel 1, 6, or 11 for one
AP, and another for the other AP.  Make the 5400 only
use the SMC.  If none of that is possible, or doesn't
change anything, take the shotgun approach.  That'll
take care of any frustration.  Send the pieces back to
dlink and hp.

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Fishwife9925 - 25 May 2004 21:49 GMT
Just go to HP and make sure you have all the latest Wi-Fi update patches, I
have exactly the same combination H5450 and DWL-2100AP and solved it by
installing the patches. Word of warning though....I have upgraded my H5450
to PPC2003 and I can't remember if the patches work on PPC2002, still worth
trying. Upgrade to PPC2003 is definitely worth it. The Wi-Fi util is better
once you get your head round the Zero config scenario....don't forget that
you wont benefit from 54 megs LAN speed as the H5450 is only capable of 11
megs (11b)

> Just upgrade my network from a SMC 802.11b access point to the D-Link
> DWL-2100AP 802.11g access point.
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>
> Richard Rosenheim
Richard L Rosenheim - 26 May 2004 23:00 GMT
Okay, I upgraded the 5450 to PC2003.  I installed the WLAN Firmware Update
(100.5.39 dated 31 Jul 03) and the WLAN Driver Update (3.2.4.133 dated 19
May 2004).

I'm still not able to connect.  The iPaq detects the SID and say I'm
connected.  But, when I attempt to access either my local file server or the
web, I get the "Cannot Connect" dialog.  It says "Cannot connect with
current connection settings.  To change your connection settings, tap
Settings."

Under the "Network Management" page, I have both combo boxes set to "My Work
Network".  On the "Configure Wireless Networks" page, "Networks to access"
is set to "All available".  "Automatically connect to non-preferred
networks" is checked.

I currently have WEP disabled on the access point, along with MAC filtering.
The AP has that latest firmware installed.

Any ideas?

Thanks for you help,

Richard Rosenheim

> Just go to HP and make sure you have all the latest Wi-Fi update patches, I
> have exactly the same combination H5450 and DWL-2100AP and solved it by
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> > Richard Rosenheim
 
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