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Windows Mobile 6 Standard vs Professional

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M Skabialka - 23 Jul 2008 17:50 GMT
I am looking into buying a new cell phone that combines a phone and a pda.
Some of them say they come with Windows Mobile 6 Standard, and some with
Windows Mobile 6 Professional.  I can't seem to be able to find out the
difference at Microsoft.com.
What is the difference?
M Skabialka - 23 Jul 2008 17:55 GMT
Found the answer on Wikipedia - I need Windows Mobile 6 Professional for a
Pocket PC/Mobile Phone.

>I am looking into buying a new cell phone that combines a phone and a pda.
>Some of them say they come with Windows Mobile 6 Standard, and some with
>Windows Mobile 6 Professional.  I can't seem to be able to find out the
>difference at Microsoft.com.
> What is the difference?
Sven - 25 Jul 2008 03:15 GMT
Linley provided a good resource, but the major difference between Pro and
Standard is support for a touch Screen in Pro. So Standard is much more a
'phone' with a lot of PDAish capabilities. You do all entry via the phone
pad though, which can be challenging if you need to enter a lot. There is
always a BT keyboard as an option if you need to enter a lot occasionally.
The other distinguishing feature is typically size. Standard devices, being
primarily phones, are typically smaller than Professional devices being
primarily PDAs.

So really capability is not that different, but usage is. That's a personal
decision.

> Found the answer on Wikipedia - I need Windows Mobile 6 Professional for a
> Pocket PC/Mobile Phone.
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>>difference at Microsoft.com.
>> What is the difference?
Todd Allcock - 25 Jul 2008 04:16 GMT
> So really capability is not that different, but usage is. That's a
> personal decision.

I haven't played with a WM6 Standard Smartphone (non-touchscreen)- my
wife's is a WM5, but unless things have changed much, capabilities are
still different- IIRC, there's still no cut-and-paste function on Standard,
while Office documents can now be edited, new ones can't be created, and
File Explorer can't browse network shares like on WM Pro devices.
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices] - 25 Jul 2008 09:02 GMT
> IIRC, there's still no cut-and-paste function on Standard,

That's true - in this regard, for example Symbian S60 is far more advanced.
However, there're third-party, free (!) apps that allow for this - e.g.,
VITO's CopyPaste.

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>> So really capability is not that different, but usage is. That's a
>> personal decision.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> while Office documents can now be edited, new ones can't be created, and
> File Explorer can't browse network shares like on WM Pro devices.
Sven - 26 Jul 2008 02:00 GMT
Most all of the noted deficiencies have workarounds on the phone. Might take
a little more geeking than having them out of the box, but by and large you
can do the same things. If you are trying to do a lot of things that a PDA
is more suited to, then you should buy a PDA.

>> So really capability is not that different, but usage is. That's a
>> personal decision.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> while Office documents can now be edited, new ones can't be created, and
> File Explorer can't browse network shares like on WM Pro devices.
DevilsPGD - 25 Jul 2008 06:48 GMT
>So Standard is much more a
>'phone' with a lot of PDAish capabilities. You do all entry via the phone
>pad though, which can be challenging if you need to enter a lot.

That depends on the device, isn't the Motorola Q a smartphone class
device with a full keyboard?
Todd Allcock - 25 Jul 2008 07:02 GMT
> >So Standard is much more a
> >'phone' with a lot of PDAish capabilities. You do all entry via the phone
> >pad though, which can be challenging if you need to enter a lot.
>
> That depends on the device, isn't the Motorola Q a smartphone class
> device with a full keyboard?

Even with a full keyboard, it lacks a touchscreen, putting it in the
Windows Mobile "Standard" (formerly called "Smartphone") category rather
than WM "Professional" (formerly called "Pocket PC Phone Edition.")

This means it lacks the features I mentioned earlier- cut-and-paste,
network share browsing via WiFi, etc.
DevilsPGD - 25 Jul 2008 07:30 GMT
>> >So Standard is much more a
>> >'phone' with a lot of PDAish capabilities. You do all entry via the
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>Windows Mobile "Standard" (formerly called "Smartphone") category rather
>than WM "Professional" (formerly called "Pocket PC Phone Edition.")

Agreed -- Just pointing out that the "You do all entry via the phone
pad" isn't entirely true.

>This means it lacks the features I mentioned earlier- cut-and-paste,
>network share browsing via WiFi, etc.

Indeed.
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices] - 25 Jul 2008 09:03 GMT
> Agreed -- Just pointing out that the "You do all entry via the phone
> pad" isn't entirely true.

It all depends on the model... some have keyboard, some don't. The latter
entirely rely on the numeric keypad (or an external keyboard).

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Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.

>>> >So Standard is much more a
>>> >'phone' with a lot of PDAish capabilities. You do all entry via the
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>
> Indeed.
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices] - 25 Jul 2008 09:04 GMT
BTW, still speaking of this q, I *really* recommend following my blog. I've
published several articles on the real-world compatibility issues of
Standard, particularly as far as "hacking" originally PPC-only apps onto
Smartphones is concerned.
Linley Meslier - 24 Jul 2008 04:50 GMT
> I am looking into buying a new cell phone that combines a phone and a pda.
> Some of them say they come with Windows Mobile 6 Standard, and some with
> Windows Mobile 6 Professional.  I can't seem to be able to find out the
> difference at Microsoft.com.
> What is the difference?

You will find great resources on Microsoft's Windows Mobile Total
Access Site - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/default.mspx.
Register and you'll have access to free software, ringtones, themes,
tips etc.

Linley Meslier
Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices
Http://PocketpcMauritius.blogspot.com/
M Skabialka - 25 Jul 2008 15:03 GMT
Thanks, I will look into that.

I bought the phone; a Samsung SCH-i760 with WM Professional.  It uses a
stylus and I can write on the screen using transcriber like my old PDA, or
use the pull-out keyboard, which beats the tar out of pressing the A button
3 times to get the letter C on my old cell phone!  Each has its benefits
depending on what I am doing.
I have learned a lot about Windows Mobile and smartphones in the last few
days!
Another question - on my old PDA, when PocketPC 2003 came out I had to get
the upgrade from 2002 from Toshiba.  Verizon says they don't have an upgrade
from WM 6 to WM 6.1 - does that mean I have to go to Samsung, or Microsoft,
or wait on Verizon???  Or am I stuck with 6.0?

Mich

On Jul 23, 8:50 pm, "M Skabialka" <mskabia...@NOSPAMdrc.com> wrote:
> I am looking into buying a new cell phone that combines a phone and a pda.
> Some of them say they come with Windows Mobile 6 Standard, and some with
> Windows Mobile 6 Professional. I can't seem to be able to find out the
> difference at Microsoft.com.
> What is the difference?

You will find great resources on Microsoft's Windows Mobile Total
Access Site - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/default.mspx.
Register and you'll have access to free software, ringtones, themes,
tips etc.

Linley Meslier
Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices
Http://PocketpcMauritius.blogspot.com/
Roger - 25 Jul 2008 16:22 GMT
If it works like it did with HTC, they said if you bought the phone SIM free
then you need to go to the manuafacturer to ask for an upgrade; if you
bought it through Verison then Verison should provide the upgrade; if they
say that they won't then you are stuck with 6.0. Fortunately I bought mine
SIM free and HTC provided the upgrade.

Best of luck.

> Thanks, I will look into that.
>
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> Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices
> Http://PocketpcMauritius.blogspot.com/
 
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