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ANN:  REDFLY Mobile Companion Review

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Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices - 30 Jul 2008 02:19 GMT
One of the challenges with using Windows Mobile devices, as with most mobile
devices, is the size of the screen. It is great having Office Mobile on the
latest and greatest device but doing a significant edit of a document on a
3.5" QVGA screen is, well... fun? Granted, on bigger devices that have VGA
screens, the HTC Advantage comes to mind, it is a bit easier but you still
end up doing a lot of side-to-side scrolling. Couple this with either a soft
keyboard on the device or a small thumboard to type with and once again,
doing big edits on a document is, well... fun? How then do you get around
this quandry? With a colorful insect of course!

The Celio REDFLY is designed to help resolve this difficulty for Windows
Mobile users by allowing them to connect their device via a USB cable or
Bluetooth to the REDFLY and gain an 8", 800x480 VGA display and full QWERTY
keyboard. The REDFLY has no memory, storage or operating system itself. It
is literally an extension of your device, utilizing the memory, storage and
operating system of it. Even better, the REDFLY has a VGA output so you can
display on an external monitor or projector straight from the device,
something only a select few Windows Mobile devices can do natively. All of
this in a package that is less than 2lbs. and 9" wide and under $500? If you
a a true power user of your Windows Mobile device, you should seriously
consider a REDFLY. It could save your eyes and thumbs!

Read the full review at
http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/redfly/default.asp

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Todd Allcock - 30 Jul 2008 03:26 GMT
> One of the challenges with using Windows Mobile devices, as with most
> mobile devices, is the size of the screen. It is great having Office
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> Read the full review at
> http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/redfly/default.asp

Sorry- I just don't see the point of it- for _less_ money, I can tote
around a similar size/weight ASUS EEE PC that has a large display and
keyboard like the Redfly, but also has a full PC OS, memory, storage, and
doesn't require my WinMo device to be it's "brains"- just it's modem- if
WiFi isn't around.  

The Redfly is a cute concept that would work if it was less money than a
micro-laptop, not more.  I suspect it will sell well only when some close-
out discounter like Geeks.com or TigerDirect finally dumps them at $199.
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] - 30 Jul 2008 16:53 GMT
This is more a "for each his need..."

During my travel days (and before checked bag charges ;-) I partitioned
luggage into "carry" and "luggage" so, this can be looked at as a
windows mobile "docking station" with additional attributes such as
allowing a road warrior to hook up to a vga projector and giving a
presentation he/she was able to work with on the plane.

While the price is high, it's relative to what the user reaps from using
it... for example the full keyboard and mouse when you have a place to
sit down for a few hours work would have high repeating value and you
can factor in the cost of a portable ppc keyboard with that.

This is obviously for those who's ppc's are their primary computing
device, and, it significantly narrows the gap between the two when a pc
is not available nor needed.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices - 30 Jul 2008 18:30 GMT
Agree Bev.
> This is more a "for each his need..."
>
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> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices - 30 Jul 2008 18:29 GMT
Todd,

As I said in the review, it isn't for everyone.  The aim of the REDFLY is
clearly at the business segment and business traveler.  If you are a power
user of your WinMo device, this could be a thumb and eye saver for sure.
Having used both the Advantage and the REDFLY, I can see the benefits of
both.  It really depends on your needs.

Regards,

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>> One of the challenges with using Windows Mobile devices, as with most
>> mobile devices, is the size of the screen. It is great having Office
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> micro-laptop, not more.  I suspect it will sell well only when some close-
> out discounter like Geeks.com or TigerDirect finally dumps them at $199.
Todd Allcock - 31 Jul 2008 01:57 GMT
> Todd,
>
> As I said in the review, it isn't for everyone.  The aim of the REDFLY is
> clearly at the business segment and business traveler.  If you are a power
> user of your WinMo device, this could be a thumb and eye saver for sure.

I do consider myself a ower user", but still don't see the advantage of a
PPC extention with the roughly the same form factor and higher price as an
XP mini-laptop.

I love WinMo as much as the next guy, but if someone magically created a
way to cram XP or Vista onto my Kaiser, I'd use it instead!

> Having used both the Advantage and the REDFLY, I can see the benefits of
> both.  It really depends on your needs.

Fair enough!  I'll conceed that point to you.   ;-)
Bob Walker - 31 Jul 2008 14:50 GMT
>> Todd,
>>
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>
> Fair enough!  I'll conceed that point to you.   ;-)

Todd,

I was able to get a very short demonstration of the REDFLY Clinton was
testing and I found it to have some potential benefits over my Sony TX850
which is about the same size and weight and runs XP Pro.  Thats not to say
the REDFLY is "equal" to the laptop but in some circumstances a good
alternative.

The Sony is slow to boot up, so it's not available to use as quickly as the
"instant on" REDFLY.
My phone synchronizes OTA with my Exchange Server, so REDFLY ( is always up
to date with contacts, email, and calendar as well as with the notes, files
and programs I keep on my phone.  It's not another device to keep
synchronized.
To use my phone as a modem for the Sony I would have to step up to a
conserably higher "tethering" data plan.  It looks to me like the REDFLY
wouldn't require that since it's using the same resources as the phone
without the REDFLY.
Using a USB flash drive I can add MUCH more storage than I could with the
phone alone.

I don't pretend to be on the same level as you and Clinton, but as an
enthusiastic WM user, I can see some reasons to use the REDFLY rather than
my laptop on many occasions.  I haven't made the purchase yet, but I haven't
ruled it out.

I understand your skepticism, but if you get a chance to test-drive a REDFLY
take the opportunity.  It's a pretty interesting device (depending on your
needs).

Bob
 
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