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Pocket PC Forum / End Users / Pocket PC / October 2008Need recommendation new PPC
Hi. I purchased a Dell Axim X5 when they first came out (7 years ago?) and I love it. However, it is clearly reaching the end of its usefullness. It is not java compatible (although I guess there could be third party s/w) and it has no integrated wireless capability (and I am right now trying to exchange my Netgear MA701 card for the 8th time in 7 years because they are useless pieces of garbage). I want to buy a new PPC, WM-compatible with integrated Wifi (Bluetooth would be a nice option but not necessary). I've had bad experiences with Dell over the past couple of years with their desktop computers otherwise I would just get whatever their new model is. Any recommendations? I'd like to keep it on the less expensive side. Thanks Dewey >Hi. I purchased a Dell Axim X5 when they first came out (7 years ago?) and >I love it. However, it is clearly reaching the end of its usefullness. It [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Any recommendations? I'd like to keep it on the less expensive side. There is no new Dell PPC. They got out of the market a few years ago. THere are really very few Pocket PC only devices. Today, they are called Windows MObile Classic devices - Pocket PCs with no phone built in. HP has one or two I believe, but I honestly don't keep up with that device. Everything now is connected and most people get their Pocket PC from their carrier in the form of a Pocket PC PHone, or Windows MObile Professional device. Check with your carrier to see what they have. If you insist on wanting a standalone PDA, then look for the Classic devices. Again, HP has at least 1, but I really don't know of too many others. Dell is out, Toshiba is out, Fujistu is out and everyone else moved to phone enabled devices. __________ This was posted on Microsoft's microsoft.public.* newsgroup server. If you see this on any other web page, it was stolen and used without permission. See http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx  Signature__________________________________________________________________________________ Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of all) What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/ Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >>Hi. I purchased a Dell Axim X5 when they first came out (7 years ago?) >>and I love it. However, it is clearly reaching the end of its [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > permission. See > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx Thanks for the info. I really don't want a phone-like device. I find that cell phones last about 2 years at best. My X5 is 7 years old and if they made a OS update for it, I'd be good for another 3 at least. But thanks anyway. SignatureLiberal Media? Thomas Muthee. 'Nuff said. >Thanks for the info. I really don't want a phone-like device. I find >that cell phones last about 2 years at best. My X5 is 7 years old and if >they made a OS update for it, I'd be good for another 3 at least. But >thanks anyway. Take a look at an AT&T TILT, they're reasonably priced on Craigslist, and run just fine with the phone component turned off. I'm currently using an AT&T TILT as my primary PDA, and iPhone 3G as my primary mobile phone, although I can swap the SIM back and forth as I desire. >>Thanks for the info. I really don't want a phone-like device. I find >>that cell phones last about 2 years at best. My X5 is 7 years old and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > my primary mobile phone, although I can swap the SIM back and forth as > I desire. Thanks for the info. I've found some HP's on eBay with bids as low as $1. I think I'll go with that for now. SignatureLiberal Media? Thomas Muthee. 'Nuff said. Unfortunately standalone PDAs are just about a dead breed. Dell doesn't make PDAs anymore. The only current choice that I am aware of for a standalone PDA is HP with their iPAQ 100 (non-VGA) and 200 (VGA) series. For converged devices (PDA phone) the choices are endless depending on your cell phone provider. Bye Donald E. Stidwell <don@nospam.com> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:35:06 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: theBZA <dewey3kNOSPAM@gmail.com> Sent: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:09:03 Subject: Need recommendation new PPC Hi. I purchased a Dell Axim X5 when they first came out (7 years ago?) and I love it. However, it is clearly reaching the end of its usefullness. It is not java compatible (although I guess there could be third party s/w) and it has no integrated wireless capability (and I am right now trying to exchange my Netgear MA701 card for the 8th time in 7 years because they are useless pieces of garbage). I want to buy a new PPC, WM-compatible with integrated Wifi (Bluetooth would be a nice option but not necessary). I've had bad experiences with Dell over the past couple of years with their desktop computers otherwise I would just get whatever their new model is. Any recommendations? I'd like to keep it on the less expensive side. Thanks Dewey > Unfortunately standalone PDAs are just about a dead breed. Dell > doesn't make PDAs anymore. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3 What about models that are still on the market like Axim X51 or iPaq hx4700? I like having the PPC because it gives me virtually instantaneous access to the internet in all the places I have wifi access (work, home, my local coffee shop, etc). I see these selling for anywhere from $100 to $700. Any recommendations from this category? Thanks Those are only available from sources such as eBay - to the best of my knowledge you cannot buy them new from the manufacturers any more. You really should go to HPs web site and check out their last two models - especially the 200 series which has a VGA screen. And I'm sure that Werner R. has a review of them somewhere on his blog. I have to tell you that for the longest time I was totally opposed to getting a PDA phone. I loved the screen size and resolution of my standalone PDAs - an iPAQ HX_2415 (which I still have as a backup device) and my Loox 720 (unfortunately broken). However since purchasing my T- Mobile Wing about a year ago, I've really come to appreciate the convenience of having a full PDA and phone in a single device and no longer have any real interest in standalone PDAs anymore. Every program I used on my standalone devices I am using on my Wing. And consider that the Wing is hardly the best device out there. Depending on your phone provider you may be able to get a much better device! Bye Donald E. Stidwell <don@nospam.com> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:51 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: theBZA <dewey3kNOSPAM@gmail.com> Sent: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:36:49 Subject: Re: Need recommendation new PPC Donald E. Stidwell <don@nospam.com> wrote in news:1223325642@don.nospam. com: > Reply to message from theBZA <dewey3kNOSPAM@gmail.com> (Mon, 06 Oct > 2008 12:09:03) about "Need recommendation new PPC": > Unfortunately standalone PDAs are just about a dead breed. Dell doesn't > make PDAs anymore. > The only current choice that I am aware of for a standalone PDA is HP > with their iPAQ 100 (non-VGA) and 200 (VGA) series. > For converged devices (PDA phone) the choices are endless depending on > your cell phone provider. > Bye > Donald E. Stidwell <don@nospam.com> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:35:06 -0400 > === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3 What about models that are still on the market like Axim X51 or iPaq hx4700? I like having the PPC because it gives me virtually instantaneous access to the internet in all the places I have wifi access (work, home, my local coffee shop, etc). I see these selling for anywhere from $100 to $700. Any recommendations from this category? Thanks > Those are only available from sources such as eBay - to the best of my > knowledge you cannot buy them new from the manufacturers any more. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Bye > Donald E. Stidwell <don@nospam.com> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:51 -0400 Thanks for the advice. I do like the larger screen on the standalone. Also, I think I mentioned that I have wifi access all over the place, and I already have a phone. ANyway, thanks again. SignatureLiberal Media? Thomas Muthee. 'Nuff said. > Those are only available from sources such as eBay - to the best of my > knowledge you cannot buy them new from the manufacturers any more. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > there. Depending on your phone provider you may be able to get a much > better device! Hey Donald, What do you know about the HP H4355? I saw one for sale and it looks pretty cool. Seller claims it has Windows for PPC 2003. WOuld this be upgradable to WM5 or 6 or whatever version is out there? Any thoughts? Thanks, Dewey t> Donald E. Stidwell <don@nospam.com> wrote in news:1223333404@don. t> nospam.com: >> Those are only available from sources such as eBay - to the best of my >> knowledge you cannot buy them new from the manufacturers any more. >> You really should go to HPs web site and check out their last two >> models - especially the 200 series which has a VGA screen. And I'm sure >> that Werner R. has a review of them somewhere on his blog. >> I have to tell you that for the longest time I was totally opposed to >> getting a PDA phone. I loved the screen size and resolution of my [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> Depending on your phone provider you may be able to get a much better >> device! t> Hey Donald, t> What do you know about the HP H4355? I saw one for sale and it looks t> pretty cool. Seller claims it has Windows for PPC 2003. WOuld this be t> upgradable to WM5 or 6 or whatever version is out there? Any thoughts? t> Thanks, t> Dewey Oh I remember that device and how tempted I was by it because of the keyboard! I didn't buy it because at the time it was more than I could pay but I sure wanted it. HP never offered a WM5 upgrade for this device and it was just as well considering the issues they had with the devices they did offer it for. (I had it briefly on my HX_2415). 64 megs of RAM just is not enough for reasonable performance on a WM5 device. No to mention that without the softkeys the utility of WM5/6 on a non-phone device is pretty minimal. I don't recall the differences between WM2003 that comes on device and WM2003SE that later devices offered and I also don't recall if HP ever offered a WM2003SE update for this device. But at any rate I'm sure the differences were minimal. Coming from a seven year old Axim, I have to believe that you would find the 4355 a far superior and pleasant device. I can't think of any reason not recommend it especially given what device you're upgrading from. There's a pretty decent review of it at: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ipaq4350.htm. Donald E. Stidwell <don@nospam.com> Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:35:42 -0400 === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3 clip > I like having the PPC because it gives me virtually >instantaneous access to the internet in all the places I have wifi >access (work, home, my local coffee shop, etc). Just to be clear: The new converged devices (Windows Mobile Professional) have cell phone, wifi, and Bluetooth. So you won't give up all your wifi connections. But the cell phone might be unnecessary for you. ----------------------------------------- To reply to me, remove the underscores (_) from my email address (and please indicate which newsgroup and message). Robert E. Zaret, eMVP PenFact, Inc. 20 Park Plaza, Suite 400 Boston, MA 02116 www.penfact.com clip >For converged devices (PDA phone) the choices are endless depending on your >cell phone provider. And somewhat greater for folks who are willing to pay extra for unsubsidized devices. ----------------------------------------- To reply to me, remove the underscores (_) from my email address (and please indicate which newsgroup and message). Robert E. Zaret, eMVP PenFact, Inc. 20 Park Plaza, Suite 400 Boston, MA 02116 www.penfact.com >Hi. I purchased a Dell Axim X5 when they first came out (7 years ago?) and >I love it. However, it is clearly reaching the end of its usefullness. It [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Thanks >Dewey I'd suggest getting a laptop and forget the ppc. After having purchased a number of ppcs in recent years i've come to the painful conclusion I should have spent the money on a laptop instead. >>Hi. I purchased a Dell Axim X5 when they first came out (7 years ago?) >>and I love it. However, it is clearly reaching the end of its [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > purchased a number of ppcs in recent years i've come to the painful > conclusion I should have spent the money on a laptop instead. I like the extra portability and instant-on features of PPC. I already have two laptops anyway. But thanks. > I like the extra portability and instant-on features of PPC. I already > have two laptops anyway. But thanks. Provided you are careful. Programs on my WM5.0 device can lock up or come up with errors if the device is turned off and then on again while the programs are running. Patches for some such problems have been issued. Mike. SignatureIf reply address is invalid, remove spurious "@" and substitute "plus" where needed. > Provided you are careful. Programs on my WM5.0 device can lock up or come up > with errors if the device is turned off and then on again while the programs > are running. Patches for some such problems have been issued. Care to give us an example or two? I've used Pocket PC's for a number of years now and I've yet to encounter an application that cannot survive a power-off. Ebbe >> Provided you are careful. Programs on my WM5.0 device can lock up or >> come up with errors if the device is turned off and then on again [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ebbe Sure, the worst one is Navigon-5. When you exit it (and it does have a quit item in the menu) the GPS is held open and working for several seconds. If the PDA is turned off in that time the GPS is held open and cannot be used by any other program or Navigon-5 if re-started. Only a soft reset will cure this. The other problematic program is Windows Media Moble 10 which sometimes says the device (sound "card" presumably) is inaccessible when the PDA is turned on again. But this is an ignorable pop-up message and nothing locks up. The program that needed a patch is the built-in WiFi. Mike. SignatureIf reply address is invalid, remove spurious "@" and substitute "plus" where needed. |
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